After a multitude of angel investor conversations over the last couple weeks (including Drinks On Fifth interviews with Sig Mosley and Vivek Wadhwa), I’ve come to one core question – and no one captures it better than Jay-Z: Who’s gonna run this town tonight? Between the economic downturn and Sig Mosley not issuing any new term sheets, there’s a vacuum a mile wide in Atlanta – a town that has all of the underpinnings necessary to be the next Boulder or New York. So who’s it gonna be? Someone we all know from inside 285? A shadow player who has local staff but that most entrepreneurs have never heard of? An East Coast outfit who has a stringer or EIR hanging around Atlanta? A complete outsider like Jason Calacanis with his Open Angel Forum? Or worst-case scenario of all: no one fills the void. Here’s my thought on what’s next…
First off, let’s be honest: Atlanta has the infrastructure needed to be a much bigger player than we are. Here are 10 truths I dare you to argue with:
- An airport that gets you almost anywhere in the world direct.
- An overall cost of living that embarrasses the West Coast or Northeast.
- A full-fledged research institution that churns out ninja engineers like crazy in Georgia Tech.
- One of the nation’s top technology-based incubators in ATDC.
- A design school that produces stunning visual artists and game designers in Savannah College of Art & Design.
- A vacancy rate in commercial real estate so high it drives insanely pro-startup prices and terms.
- A residential real estate market that’s always been ultra-competitive with other tech centers – and has taken an additional economy-driven haircut.
- Access to mid- and executive-level management talent from multiple Fortune 500 companies across industries like shipping, CPG, transportation, finance, etc.
- A no-brainer relocation spot for the future executive-level talent needed to drive the business.
- A thriving social life for young, single professionals.
Sure the traffic sucks and it’s hot in the summer, but get over it – every city has its issues. This town is ripe for the picking!
There’s another aspect of Atlanta you can’t ignore: in the absence of Sig, the rest of the angel class is a town of followers. While logic dictates this is a hindrance in growing an overall startup ecosystem, I would argue this might be our saving grace. If we can find the right minds to lead, the rest of this town will follow – that habit can’t be broken easily. What do you think would happen if a guy like Ron Conway or Chris Sacca funded in 2-3 Atlanta companies in the real-time data space? What if the Pied Piper changed the tune from B2B to something more of-the-now? You guessed it: the startup ecosystem would shift on a dime – and the angels would battle to the death to align themselves in deals alongside these heavy hitters. But I actually don’t think the solution is 100% external – I believe the new blood would only serve to shake the locals from a slumbering sleep (both investors and entrepreneurs).
I’m going to skip my “swing for the fences” speech on what types of companies entrepreneurs should be starting for one simple reason: natural selection. Once 3-4 new-style deals are done, I believe the transformation will be complete in less than six months. That’s a direct testament to how I think entrepreneurs have tried to build companies to be funded versus building what they really think users will love.
At the same time, entrepreneurs are not without blame here. I’m considering assembling a Crazy 88s-like band of ninjas to personally hunt down all startup people who ask investors and advisors for NDAs – you really gotta stop embarrassing yourself and our town. And secondly, quit asking for funding based on business plans – real investors fund URLs and working products.
But overall, I’m wildly optimistic about the quality and quantity of startups that can come from this town if there’s a clear path forward. I don’t think it’s an understatement to say startup folks have been beaten down. That bat’s been swung at me personally, and it’s not a Louisville Slugger – it tattooed B2B-SaaS on my arm for a week. But if we can break out of these shackles great things will happen. Imagine a Tech engineer, a SCAD designer and UGA journalism student joining forces to create a digital media company. Done…
At the end of the day, I think the major shift lies on the shoulders of outsiders – unless there’s some hidden individual or syndicate that’s ready to do 5-7 deals a year. (And honestly, I don’t care who you are as long as you’re in it for the love of the game.) We need someone like Jason Calacanis, Brad Feld, Ron Conway or Chris Sacca to wipe the slate clean. Someone with massive street cred, a solid track record and the resources necessary to take a company from a $25K seed round through a $5M Series C without getting crammed down. But those guys aren’t going to move here, they’re only going to delve into select deals that make sense for them. Think of them as the crowbar prying the door open so we can see the light.
So what does ‘owning this town’ really mean? As Vivek Wadhwa recently told me: “You don’t need billions of dollars, you need seasoned, successful, good human beings who are ready to help other human beings.” Let me boil that down even further: it really means an individual or small group doing 5-10 six-figure deals annually across a wider variety of startups. This gets the ball rolling, and other angels will follow suit – both regionally and nationwide.

So the real question is: when the revolution happens, will you help push it forward or will you defend the old school? What side of history will you be on? I ask the question equally of investors and entrepreneurs because it will be ours to live day-in and day-out. Will you mentor younger entrepreneurs? Will you make investments based on passion for an idea not an actuarial view of the world? Will you lead the community? Will you become an angel following a successful exit? Will you finally welcome the consumer Internet with open arms? Will you give away 10% more of your company to make it 70% larger? And most importantly, are you willing to celebrate failure enough times to have a real crack at creating the next Facebook or Google?
Ask yourself these hard questions, and let’s all recognize we’re at a seminal point in our ecosystem. We can reboot the entire thing and unlearn all our bad habits, or we can be lazy and let inertia rule the day.
So again I ask: who’s gonna run this town tonight?

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Jul 23, 2010posted by
Mike SchinkelHowever I'm coming to the conclusion that one of the biggest reasons we are not a startup town, and I fear that we may never be, is that we have 11 Fortune 500 companies located in Atlanta all of whom (obviously) are based in the conservative south. Full stop.
You'd think that would be a good thing but after playing in the startup sandbox as somewhat of a startup community leader for 3+ years two things are becoming clear to me:
1.) The culture of Fortune 500 companies in Atlanta are extremely insular; I can count on the 10 fingers of my two hands the local F500 people whose names are even visible among those not in their company, not in their industry or not directly involved with there business in some manner. The local F500s really have little interest (or so it appears to me) in "investing" in local startup companies by being their customers (with one caveat, see #2.) I've heard numerous anecdotes about high-profile deals that companies outside of Atlanta get when their Atlanta-based competitors with solid products or solid services can't even get in the door to present. In Silicon Valley, for example (I know, I know) the major players are constantly "tending the local gardens" because its great for their region's economy, it provides experience for the local talent, and most importantly it gives them a competitive leg up on potential acquisitions. Without that kind of support from the F500s, its much harder for startups to thrive in a region.
2.) Local Fortune 500 companies DO buy from a class of startups; agencies and other service firms. These are companies whose primary value-add are talented people who are ready to ask "How High?" at the whim of any local Fortune 500 employee with an budget at all. Those types of relationships build experience and expertise in being great "client service" people but the cause the potential startup skills to atrophy and die so it's very hard for someone to take both paths or even got off the former and switch to the latter. Agencies don't build better mousetraps, they address the tactical needs of well-heeled companies. Rarely if ever does an agency working for a profitable benefactor actually get to do something that makes a real difference or changes the world; it's all about the next marketing campaign. So why would people in this more conservative town take the very high risk "Ramen noodles" path when there are so many companies out there willing to pay such high salaries for servicing the whims of those in the Fortune 500? Over a year ago I generated a list of Atlanta interactive agencies which exceeds 50 and since I've created that list I've probably come across another 50. Do we even have 50 innovative startups that are or will one day be viable?)
So for me a huge problem is the culture of the local Fortune 500s. Unless and until the Atlanta-based F500s collectively value innovative startups and unless and until our major corporations actively encourage those they buy from to help grow their market cap by providing strategic technical and/or market *innovations* instead of just getting tactical help with their latest "It's all about us" marketing campaign, I'm afraid to say I believe very little is likely to change.
Sorry to be negative, but that's just how I've come to see things lately.
P.S. Yes there are a few "startups" companies for which this doesn't apply but they are outliers, not the norm.
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
Dave WaltersYou and I have talked at-length about the nature vs. nurture question for entrepreneurs and I think this is the primary driver. In fact, I personally found my time inside agencies improved my startup game – I understood corporate buyers up-close and personal, I watched how innovation could be killed by committee, and I saw how much EVPs are willing to spend on technology. In theory, this agency track should be churning out potential entrepreneurs but there’s simply nowhere for them to go. No vibrant, funded B2C companies where their talents are pure gold.
For my money, you’ve just added another argument for why we need more B2C startups. I hadn’t thought of that one yet. Thanks!
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
local guyThere are at least two really good consumer deals on the street that people "don't get" because a) they're Consumer SaaS gutting an old media industry, and b) everyone wants to know either "what Sig said" or get feedback from the one consumer-deal-founder guy in town that won't bother to meet.
Like Mike I know a few of the F500 dudes who will spend loads of time as Advisors with the two big Universities or new media agencies, but that's for one reason only: poaching cheap, trained do-er talent, not innovations.
Unlike Dave I don't believe any outside investor type's are gonna bother with ATL. When DLA came in, there was a threat of this - but in todays climate it just ain't gonna happen. Everyone west of Sonoma has parked the jet.
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
Celia DyerBefore you came on board, TechDrawl's first research project was spurred by Jeff Haynie's rather controversial departure to Mountain View. blog.jeffhaynie.us/.../. Mike Schinkel, Lance Weatherby, Urvaksh Karkaria and others filled me in.
So, TechDrawl (funded by the startup community) sent Russell Jurney to study (and hopefully emulate) the Valley's startup culture and ecosystem techdrawl.com/.../.... He interviewed 8-10 of the biggest names out there including David Lee of SV Angel LLC (Ron Conway was in Hawaii).
Back in Atlanta, there was some fallout and backlash with "Not the Valley" buttons and lots of cheerleading since there are great reasons to live here.
However since then, we've lost 2 more entrepreneurs to the Valley -- Jurney and Paul Stamatiou, as well as a digital media strategist, Courtenay Bird. Brain drain.
We've also lost Greg Foster (but not to the Valley) , the only B2C VC in town.
I've become cynical for a 2 reasons. 1) Jurney's video interviews made clear that angels and VCs want to be geographically proximal to their teams. I realized it was probably wishful thinking that TechDrawl could attract B2C investment capital from outside the region, on of our original missions. 2) As Haynie said, Atlanta and Georgia are relatively tech laggards. I first realized this when at a TAG Top 40 judging event well over a year ago, the backnoise stream complained the judges were too low-tech to be judging technology. Only 2 were on Twitter and 1 did not even use a cell phone(!) Thanks to Ben Dyer (related), I've socialized with lots of investors here and have discovered how little many of them apparently get online (with some exceptions). I've explain how to move a cursor on a computer screen to click on a PayPal icon.
Now I'm a cynic. But, B2B will do fine in Atlanta and there's probably generally better ROI's there anyway.
Why are we technology laggards? I tend to concur with Jurney's theory that it's a Red State-Blue State pattern. Austin, Boulder, Boston, New York City and San Francisco are more liberal and open-minded, and Atlanta is more conservative and closed-minded. (And, I say that as someone who is relatively conservative).
In San Francisco (and all of CA during my 2 years there), it is cool to be on the cutting edge of everything. That's their schtick, their state pride. They know they are the world's fount of innovation and people are embarrassed to be left behind, to be low tech. It's cultural.
Not to rain on your parade, Dave, but I think you're going to be playing this tune by Rihanna and Jay-Z sooner rather than later: www.spike.com/.../2852429 :-)
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
Dave WaltersAnd I'll guarantee a year from now I'll be posing the same questions if things are still status quo – or better yet, we'll be running a funded startup alongside TechDrawl that is part of the solution. I refuse to concede there's no hope – this town is too smart.
My article has nothing to do with the SV vs. ATL debate. We're primed to define our own version of success – much the way Boulder has. I've had the conversations with like-minded guys like Jeff Hilimirie, and there are efforts underway. The question is: what will you do to help move us forward?
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
local guyAnd to the points about ATL events, that panel of Angels kicking off the TiE event demonstrated they're tired. Someone needs to start inviting active, excited angels to drum up the town rather than the same old guys that talk it down even if their investments aren't yet well known.
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Celia DyerEven Austin entrepreneurs often must move executive(s) to the Valley to be near investors. Piryx www.piryx.com/landing/start/ case in point.
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
Michael PriceAs Ben mentioned in another article, there are several efforts underway to form Angel Funds in town. Hopefully several of those efforts will be successful and would be a big help to fill the void (wish Sig and John could stay in forever). On our part, we are also going to try and do more "not started internally" deals although the IRR of those is challenging without natural advantages in the marketplace beyond the tech being offered (but making good strides in building these to help the chosen startups jump forward). I don't think we can rely on any one firm as in the past, the strength of the Valley is in the numbers and synergistic ecosystems.
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
John PeltierAustin has hundreds of groups and events cross-pollinated with local startup talent. F500's are somewhat scarce as well, but (1) the city encourages startups, (2) startups help each other, (3) the angel and incubator scenes are vibrant, and (4) people take pride in "Austin." They enjoy creating and being something bigger than themselves. It's personal.
My point is #4 of the above: People in Atlanta dislike living in Atlanta. (not "Metro Atlanta," -- "Atlanta") People steadfastly avoid going ITP, scared of what they may find. Encourage technology happy hours and events to draw folks together. That's a community builder Atlanta desperately needs.
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
Dave WaltersThe real problem is solving this issue would require one to start yet another event in an attempt to do things differently. So it's x+1, x+2, etc. until someone gets it right.
I think you've got to take a more one-on-one approach to networking – find people who matter to your startup, and build real relationships not just networking events or drinks once a month.
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
Celia Dyer(I feel like most startup events occur in Tech Square in Midtown ATL. Must be missing some ATDC circles).
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
Ben DyerOf course now all the rules are different. It's become hard to find anyone who has not LOST money on a bank deal in the last 3 years. We all read the same stats on the real estate market and know what that's going to be like for a while. Perhaps there will be new impetus to shift investment dollars toward the innovation coming from our research institutions and the bright young entrepreneurs they are spawning.
Perhaps the leadership for such will arise from within. That's probably our best chance, given that it's much easier for ideas and entrepreneurs to move to the money than vice versa. We may have already ceded great tech trends like RTD and LBS to the Valley and other media centers, and perhaps we ought to be focusing on the next round of opportunity. It could be medical devices or greentech, for example.
All this goes back to many previous discussions on the need to be working on the right things here -- the ones that can scale with the resources available in Atlanta. That won't be more banks, and it may not be consumer Internet, but there are areas in which we can lead. I think the "right things" will get funded -- investors will be the ultimate voters who make those choices.
Great post, Dave, and welcome comments all.
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
Celia DyerOkay, just kidding.
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Celia Dyerwww.youtube.com/.../
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Jul 23, 2010posted by
Dave WrightWhy is that? Well, I think one reason is that the ecosystem in the Valley leads to far more forward thinking about startup ideas, and certainly has advantages in terms of building teams that investors think can build a successful exit.
Of course, just because a startup isn't fundable doesn't mean it's not worth doing - it just means it's not ready for funding yet. Ask questions, get a reality check, find your weaknesses, decide if they can be addressed, and pivot as many times as needed. Build it on your spare time and get funding when you have a product and paying customers. You'll be amazed at how much money is available when that happens.
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Jul 25, 2010posted by
Dave WaltersIn terms of their effect on how we determine the future of investors and startups in a deep economic downturn while simultaneously losing our most prolific angel, you would have been channeling Nostradamus to have covered that ground.
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Jul 25, 2010posted by
local guyThis concept of a gate keeper/turkey caller is larger here than many folks want to admit. I also sense someone angling to be the next big warbler. That, of course, requires an owner carrying a gun that can actually buy bullets and pull the trigger.
From what I hear, that ain't the case.
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Jul 25, 2010posted by
Dave WaltersTo me, the best possible scenario is a mix of 4-6 investors taking up the mantle – with a varied view of the types of businesses they fund. Add a thriving Shotput Ventures-type incubator to the mix, and I think you'll have a killer ecosystem that will draw great ideas out of talented entrepreneurs.
A $20K bet on a 22 year-old has the highest probability chance of starting the next game-changing company – but only if the angels and VCs are slotted in behind the incubator to fund the growth. It takes cash to scale at the speed most investors want to move...
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